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Once we get the 99 carrier in there, the options open up.
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I have the OS Giken with the high power option sitting on the shelf waiting to go into a diff.
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Revision as of 14:43, 8 December 2011

Solo Rules

Drivetrain is virtually unrestricted.

Transmission

5 Speed

The stock Miata 5-speed transmission has been shown to have issues with high power levels in stock form. They're cheap as hell, though. Has anyone explored shot-peening/cryoing stock sets?

Stock Ratios

3.136, 1.888, 1.330, 1.000, 0.814

Quaife Gearset

There is a 2500$ Quaife gearset available (+600$ installation) that's much sturdier, but rumors have that as potentially exploding as well under high power applications.

Ratios:

  • Option 1: 2.564, 1.670, 1.273, 1.000, 0.794
  • Option 2: 2.350, 1.550, 1.240, 1.000, 0.881

OS Giken Gearsets

OS Giken apparently has a closeout on an older Miata 3-speed gearset they used to make. Bill @ MiataRoadster is looking into pricing.

Ratios: 2.604, 1.639, 1.228

Speed Options

(Assuming 8000 rpm redline)

Stock:

  • 3.909: 45/74mph
  • 4.1: 43/71mph

Quaife 1:

  • 4.3: 50/76mph
  • 4.44: 48/74mph (this gearset gives a much less annoying 5th gear too)
  • 4.625: 46/71mph

Quaife 2:

  • 4.625: 50/76mph
  • 4.888: 48/72mph (almost 4000 rpms @ 60mph)

OS Giken Miata Ratios:

  • 4.44: 47/75
  • 4.625: 45/72
  • 4.888: 43/68

6 Speed

Some of the later Miatas had an option for a 6-speed, which is an entirely different design, and holds up to quite a bit more power. Not bulletproof, but a lot better.

I'm trying to contact several people to see about the mythical 3.3 ratio, and might end up being able to make one custom. This would be a great combo with the 6-speed.

Ratios

3.760, 2.269, 1.645, 1.257, 1.000, 0.843

Anyone ever make alternate gear ratios? Possible to change?

Cost/Availability

Seems to be around $700. Somewhat rare.

Speed Options

  • (nothing lower than 3.636 seems to exist)
  • 3.636: 38/62/86mph
  • 4.3: 32/53/73mph (this one seems the likely choice, and also the easy ratio)
  • 4.1: 33/55/76mph

TRE Box

There seems to be a guy who makes custom Miata transmissions. Taylor Racing Elite? The Springfield Dyno page references it, and it might be interesting to explore...

Jerico

Jerico also makes custom transmissions. Mckee's running one. Maybe get something like their 3 speed?

Fluid

What fluid to run? Redline?

Starter

The later Miatas had a (3? 4?) pound lighter starter that is, in theory, a direct swap.

Driveshaft

The 99 carrier swap will bring a new slightly shorter driveshaft. The stock one is 11 lbs, the MSM shaft is 14 lbs. At some point someone made a CF driveshaft at about 8 lbs, but it's not available anywhere that I can find. Probably not worth it to bother. :)

Rear End

The car currently has the stock 1.6 rear end in it. No idea yet if it's a VLSD or open. I need to locate a new 1.8 pumpkin + axles to swap to.

Available Ratios

  • 4.888 -- Mazdaspeed Motorsports has a kit (and I have one)
  • 4.44 -- Mazdaspeed part # M054-27-110A, 491$
  • 4.3 -- 99+ (I have one of these too)
  • 4.1 -- 94-97
  • 3.909 -- US 6-speed
  • 3.636 -- Australian 6-speed (!? where do we get one of these)

In theory there's other options, but they may require some tweaking. See this Diff Info link for more options/info.

Differential

I have the OS Giken with the high power option sitting on the shelf waiting to go into a diff.


Torsen

Works great, holds up to a lot of power, cheap and available.

OS Giken

949 Racing worked with Bob Bundy on a high power option for the OS Giken diff. It's now available at 949 for 1734$. Yoink.

Axles

Stock miata axles with the 99 carrier swap hold up to a lot of power. ABS Rings part # is BC4C-33-471. ~34$ each.

Links

Gear Calculator